Thursday, January 26, 2012
My Dashed Ivy League Dreams
I was talking about education with someone the other day; we were discussing our long term goals. I am continuing my education as a Social Work major now; I have to get my BSW in Social Work as the minimum requirement in my state to hold the title of "Social Worker." My goal is really to complete an MSW. My friend asked me what graduate schools I was applying to. I casually started to comment that I had looked into programs, listing the names of schools as I talked. When I got to the name of an Ivy League school that I have a good change of getting into, my friend proceeded to sit there and laugh right in my face. I mean, it was an enormous guffaw launched across the table in my direction. Nice.
"What?!" I said. "I have a good chance of getting into their advanced standing program to complete my Master's in a year!" She shook her head "you could never in a billion years pay for that." I felt insulted, not really by her, but at what causes a great education to be so far out of reach to the point that someone would laugh in my face for even considering it.
I understand the concept of working hard and getting a reward because you did so. However, when it comes to something as fundamental as knowledge, I wince to see it commodified. Especially at the expense of young college kids who feel pressured to go to college, have no idea what they want to do, and pick a major whose course load looks appealing only to find out there's not much you can do with that particular degree once you graduate. The college has made money though, and the new graduate is now swimming in debt. Indeed, to be able to better yourself in order to "move up in the world" means you have to have the tools to do so. Education is one such tool. How easy is it to better yourself when the tool you need to do so with is out of your reach? People will say, you don't need an education to make it in this world [insert inspirational story of one person you met one time who didn't go to college and did awesomely here]. It's true, you do not need an education to make it in the world. However, it certainly helps and it certainly disenfranchises some people, who with their passions and skill sets, need an education as a requirement to enter into the field they would be most skilled at and thus benefit the community around them immensely.
My dad's story is one of the "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" kind. His mom left when he was two years old. He spent a good deal of time being raised by his grandmother. He got good grades in school and was a happy kid though there wasn't much money for anything. When he graduated high school, there was no money for college. So he enlisted in the military and did well. In addition to his hard work, his privileges as a White, heterosexual, Christian, male who does not have any disabilities more than likely helped as well. He met my mom and they got married. Work was often hard to find. I remember when I was little, my mom would work evenings at a local store that was a bit like today's Wal-Mart. My dad was (and still is) a Licensed Professional Land Surveyor. He has worked so hard and done so well, he is literally one of the best in his field, that he and my mom have made a nice life for themselves.
You see, he was made for surveying. He is mathematically brilliant. The man can tell you the volume by a mile-high pile of gravel just by walking around it, measuring a few things, and scribbling on a notepad. He enjoys being outdoors. He is good with electronics. I swear there is nothing about land surveying my dad does not know. He is the guy you hire when you want it done well, you want it done right, and you want it done well and right the first time it is done.
However, if my dad were a young twenty-something coming out of the military right now, he would not be able to be a Professional Land Surveyor. The laws have changed and you must have a minimum of a Bachelor's degree from an accredited college or university in a land surveying curriculum in order to be licensed. You cannot practice or call yourself a "Land Surveyor" without being licensed.
Where would my parents be now if my dad could not have followed his dreams and passions into a field that is beyond perfect for him had a specific education been necessary and not within reach? I do not even want to think about it. Maybe he would have ended up in a job he did not like and did not enjoy where advancement did not come easy. I don't even want to think about it. It makes me worry about my kids future and education; what will be available to them? College tuition calculators that average out how much you need to be saving per month to pay for your kids' college when they hit 18 make scary predictions.
Another friend encouraged me to feel jaded by my lack of ability to pay for school, let alone the school that I would like to go to. She said because I do not fall into any other minority group than being a woman (being adopted doesn't count as a minority group to most people), no one will ever help me go to school or give me a break despite the fact that college is still a struggle. I encouraged her to realize that we have never been turned down for employment or a place to live because of the color of our skin. Anywhere we go our religion is more than likely accepted and common place. We've never gone hungry or without a roof over our heads without a day in our lives. We both have been blessed with good health. Both she and I benefit from unearned privilege that has made meeting our needs possible, even if we aren't eligible at times for help reaching for the stars.
So, I won't be attending that Ivy League university. The program I need costs more than twice the amount that one at another perfectly good college costs. As much as I'd love to follow my life long dream (OK, maybe not life long but something I've aspired to since I was 16), I can't get into a mountain of debt that I'd still be paying off by the time I need to start paying for my kids' education. One of the main reasons I am going back to school is to increase my earning potential so that I can increase our likelihood of being able to send our kids to college. Going to this university would be counter-productive to that goal.
But one can still dream, I suppose.
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I am so happy to hear about your dreams to earn your MSW. I hate thinking about the financial setbacks that are involved in earning an education. College can often seem impossible for many people; however, the truth is that there is so much money available for education in scholarships. I will say this, it is a full time job searching for them and writing to compete in a contest with others. Nonetheless, it is not impossible. And you are bright, I know you can handle it. I believe in dreaming big, aiming high, and perfect shots. Dont let anything deter you from your vision. I believe in you. I did not think I was going to earn an education, but after writing my tail off I won over 160,000 in scholarship money to go to school along side with author Felecia Hatcher of www.cstudentsrock.com. She won over 100,000. Even though the book is more or less for high schoolers going to college it can help anyone going to school and figuring out how to pay for it. I know you can do it Amanda! By the way I love your new site look. Thanks for being an inspiration.
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Muzik
Best wishes to you in pursuing your education. The cost of education is ridiculous these days-- even state schools. Many young people are starting to opt for a community college to complete their gen ed requirements and then transferring to a 4-year to finish their BS. You can save quite a bit of money that way-- if the classes transfer. I actually went that route and it worked out well for me. You can also look into the possibility of combining your BS and MS requirements so that you are able to get your MS in 5 years instead of 6. Guidance counsellors/professors in your department should be able to help with that.
ReplyDeleteRegarding the Ivy League schools-- they are beautiful and I am sure the education is tops-- the networks you can make and all that, but it isn't the end all. I work with a couple folks who have advanced degrees from Ivy League Universities and we take home the same paycheck. The big difference is they are still paying off their student loans. I was able to obtain research assistantships at the school I went to and am student loan free.
First of all Amanda, congrats on your mission to become an MSW. My dad is an MSW and had a very good career. Never made a ton of money but we did fine and it was a rewarding profession. Now in retirement he still does some consulting.
ReplyDeleteI can relate to much of this post on several levels. First, I went to Penn State and had no idea what I wanted to do. I majored in Health Policy and Administration, one of those majors you can't do much with unless you have an advanced degree or some kind of clinical experience. So after 4 years at PSU I went to Johns Hopkins for their accelerated RN program. The program was 13 months and designed for students who already had a BS in some other field. One year there cost me as much as 4 at PSU!!!!! So we're talking a ton of money at this point and I had yet to have a "real" job. I don't regret getting my RN but it was never something I was dying to do. I did it to get a job (but ended up liking it more than I thought I would!) I am very much an advocate of getting a degree with some sort of real-life skill set like nursing, engineering, social work, education, accounting, etc. I have 2 friends who majored in "management" and ended up getting teaching degrees because they couldn't get a decent job.
On to my kids....I have 4 and no clue how we will pay for all to go to college. It terrifies me. There is simply no way (with our income) to save enough and also be able to live comfortably. Now I know I chose to have 4 kids, I get that. So...our "big" plan (besides saving what we can) is to sell our house.
And don't get me started on the anxiety I feel for my youngest son who has mild special needs and my daughter who is quite behind academically. Today a college degree is almost required and I worry a lot that the two of them may not achieve that. It is just a reality.
So hugs to you and congrats on working toward your goal. I agree with Muzik; with your writing skills and intellect, I bet there is a way to get some scholarship money. Good luck!!
Amanda, sometimes we have to look beyond the debt to the outcome. In the world in which we move - yes, we - we have to have more education to become more marketable, more employable and overall, more likely to make real money. Hang in, there are tons of ways to pay for college and no, you really don't have to go ivy league to get a good education.
ReplyDeleteVery best of luck, you just never know what will happen and you may achieve your dream yet.
ReplyDeleteDon't give up your dreams! I happen to know at least one Ivy (Dartmouth) that provides a full ride to undergrads whose families earn less than 70k/year. Who knows what might be available for your master's? And while it's absolutely true you don't need to go to a certain school to get a good education, you won't know what's available if you don't ask... Kudos to you for following your dreams, Amanda!
ReplyDeleteAmanda, I have to reiterate what's been said above - please do NOT make the mistake of presuming that the education you will get from said Ivy League school is necessarily better than the one you will get from a less-expensive or less prestigious name counterpart. But if you have your heart set on attending said Ivy League school, do look into scholarship sources that may be available to you both within and outside of that institution. Having read your blog for a while now, I have every reason to believe that you would be quite successful in obtaining scholarship funding - you are such an insightful and highly skilled writer, and I suspect your applications, recommendations and college transcript would show much of the same.
ReplyDeleteFrom one MSW to a future MSW congratulations. You will be a welcome addition to the field of social work. As others have shared, there are scholarship resources you should check out. (My hubby is in academia and is aware that many scholarships go unused. Make sure you find out all you can.) If you still are unable to afford an Ivy League, I know there are many other good MSW programs available. Best of luck to you. You will be an asset to the field of social work.
ReplyDeletePS So glad you are in a good internship currently. I admire your ability to juggle so many things...and to do them so well. Just make sure you are looking after yourself, too. :-)
An old friend of mine is a professor of economics at Harvard. Before that, she taught at University of Chicago's business school. When I was contemplating my MBA, I asked her if it was worth the tuition for me to go to U of Chicago vs. DeVry alternative education. Her answer: It depends on your goals. She explained that the students in her MBA program at U of Chicago wanted high-powered careers where they would be expected to work 60-80 per week. "Gee, I don't want to work that much," I said. I was thinking of just working part time or not at all until my children got older. She advised it wasn't worth the investment in U of Chicago. I went the alternative degree route, got my MBA, eased into the workforce, and now I am making a good salary at the fraction of the investment an Ivy League would have cost me.
ReplyDeleteOne thing I would caution about MSWs is that the salaries do not warrant the Ivy educational expense. I know this because my husband is an LCPC, and has worked a lot of the same jobs that MSWs do. It is a rewarding career in terms of the intangibles though.